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Commented On: Plug-In Electric Car Sales Triple In 2012 As Buyers, Models Increase


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I am with JPR3. If a vehicle has a plug and a gas tank, it is a plugin hybrid electric vehicle (PHEV). If it doesn't have a gas tank, it is an electric car. It is as simple as that.

EREV will be a subset of PHEV, once SAE J1715 standard is final. See page 10.

http://www1.eere.energy.gov/vehiclesandfuels/pdfs/merit_review_2011/veh_sys_sim/vss052_duoba_2011_o.pdf

Commented On: Plug-In Electric Car Sales Triple In 2012 As Buyers, Models Increase


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@Wop Ontour - ICE is NEVER a sole contributor of motive power for Prius or Ford hybrids. Electric power is ALWAYS needed to propel the Prius. That's how eCVT works.

Commented On: Plug-In Electric Car Sales Triple In 2012 As Buyers, Models Increase


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PiP did not tip over in the test, nor the Volt. PiP has 0.3% higher chance of rolling over than 5 stars regular Prius. That's all it took to divide between 5 and 4 stars.

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PiP has better safety rating than Volt in my opinion. For some reason, the government gave the Volt overall 5 stars and gave PiP 4 stars. See below:

2012 Volt: http://www.cars.com/chevrolet/volt/2012/safety-ratings/

2012 PiP: http://www.cars.com/toyota/prius-plug-in/2012/safety-ratings/

For Rollover Test, both got 4 stars. For Passenger Frontal crash test, Volt got 4 stars but Prius got 5 stars. Yet, overall frontal is 4 stars for both plugins.

In overall of overall, Volt got 5 stars and PiP got 4 stars. Puzzling!

Commented On: Plug-In Electric Car Sales Triple In 2012 As Buyers, Models Increase


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See below for the facts I provided below (reply to John V).

Volt EV mode takes 6.8 seconds longer to reach 100 mph. You need to get a clue.

Commented On: Plug-In Electric Car Sales Triple In 2012 As Buyers, Models Increase


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@John V - Volt is a plugin hybrid. EREV is under proposal to become a sub-category of plugin hybrid, not of EV.

http://priuschat.com/photos/screen-shot-2013-01-05-at-3-18-17-pm-png.9757/standalone

Commented On: Plug-In Electric Car Sales Triple In 2012 As Buyers, Models Increase


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@John V - Per Motortrend testing, "The 60-mph dash happens in 8.8 seconds on full electric power, 8.7 with the engine on. After 10 seconds of full-power acceleration (about 64 mph), the controller decreases the power output slightly to preserve the battery. When the engine’s running, the power it generates covers this power sag, widening the performance gap between engine on and off modes to 0.6 second at 70 mph (11.3 versus 11.9) and to 6.8 seconds by 100 mph."

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/alternative/1010_2011_chevrolet_volt_test/viewall.html#ixzz2HOR9QCPX

Commented On: Plug-In Electric Car Sales Triple In 2012 As Buyers, Models Increase


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John V, I would add that PiP has the largest cargo space (and a flat floor) out of all plugin hybrids.

C-Max Energi has smaller cargo space (different from the hybrid version) than PiP.

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John, I agree that the conditions (and threshold) for running the gas engines are different. Nonetheless, gas engine can come on for Volt, PiP or Energi models, whether it is triggered by the temperature, power, speed, range, mode override and most importantly, how the owner use it(driving condition).

Note that Volt's gas engine can come on to warm up the battery. Driver can press the HOLD button and gas engine will come on. Engine Maintenance mode and lifting up the hood will turn on the gas engine as well. When the engine is on, it can mechanically drive the wheels at constant cruising speed.

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It depends on your driving conditions. Majority of my PiP trips are done in pure EV. I do a lot of short trips and I can recharge multiple times a day. Occasionally (weekends), I use gas on longer trips.

To me, PiP is more EV than a hybrid.
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