Ah, for empty highways Xiaolong. 200 miles takes around 3.5-4 hours over here, depending on traffic...

John,

Please give it a rest. We get it, Leaf batteries degrade in the heat. We've reported on it ourselves several times, and the place for that discussion is on those stories.

Repeating your issues ad nauseum contributes absolutely nothing to the discussion.

Yup, there were indeed companies ahead of Nissan, but the story here was Nissan's rise from 21st last year and nowhere the year before that - which is quite impressive, even if other companies beat them.

If I recall correctly, Kansas makes up only around 15 miles of the route. I'm pretty sure most people could do that on a charge...

Thank you John, very much appreciated.

Deal. Provided they also pull oil company subsidies, of course.

Hi Mike. My best guess would be to register your interest with your local dealer - they probably keep a list of those wishing to test-drive the vehicle when it arrives.

As far as deposits go, I'm not sure BMW USA is taking any yet. Only a handful of European countries have started doing so.

Thanks for the insight, Xiaolong. Also worth noting that the 30-mile figure is in European testing, which doesn't accurately represent real-world use and may result in a more favorable energy use than your numbers.

It wouldn't surprise me if the e-tron hits the U.S. with an electric range closer to your 21-mile figure.

"Why does this article takes Toyota's side on this matter?"

I wouldn't say it does, John. That's *deliberately* why I included the final few paragraphs noting that real-world emissions from regular vehicles are higher than official figures often make them seem, and also that there's more to emissions than CO2.

I *also* noted in the "energy mix" section that fairly recent data suggests European energy is little worse (if not better) than the U.S. anyway, and we already know that EVs are cleaner to run virtually anywhere in the U.S.

In fact, I'm curious as to how you've interpreted the entire article in the way you have.

How do you mean "finally", George?

I don't think we've ("we" being Green Car Reports *and* the green car community as a whole) ever suggested that plug-in hybrid efficiency figures do anything *other* than contain a mix of fossil fuel and electric driving.

Looking at the bare numbers can be misleading of course, but as any Chevy Volt owner will tell you, they're quite capable of *beating* official figures too (at least on paper), if only electric power is used. Overall efficiency entirely depends on just how much electricity you use, and how often.