I have been a Honda owner since 1984. Not by loyalty but by respect. I thought Honda made the best car for the money. I bought my first wife a Prelude and when she left me I bought a 88 Prelude for myself. Then a 94 Accord for work and a new 2000 Prelude for my self. Then moved up to the 2004 TL w/Nav that had to be the best Honda ever. I couldn't wait to buy a new TL and then after seeing the new 09 I am so disapointed it is worse then my first wife leaving me. I hate the center Knob in the interior, the front nose, the rear, the extra size, and wight. This car needs to go on a diet. UGLY!!! I am franticly looking for a 2008 with the color and Nav I want. If I can't I am going to start looking elseware.